DW: Flesh and Stone

[usuallyhats]

• Overall I really liked the episode, except for the last scene, which seemed a little off to me, so much so that I wondered if she was trying to distract the Doctor into forgetting about the end of the world issue, or being somehow manipulated into doing so. I can believe that Amy would fancy the Doctor, but I don't think we've really seen much evidence before that one scene that she does. (This is pretty subjective of course; other people might think that they've been melting the screen with their chemistry.) I'm not too keen on her cheating on Rory either, but I suppose adrenaline and the fact that she nearly died, plus her uncertainty about getting married, could easily lead to not so great decision making - she was clearly freaked out, after all. And who knows, maybe they have an open relationship (*crosses fingers*). Plus, I felt her aggressiveness was crossing the line a little into not taking no for an answer. On the other hand, I really liked the fact that she was clearly not ashamed of wanting just sex, that was great. And that is officially far too many words (and not enough being articulate) on just that one scene. Onward!


• River! I love her more every episode. "...I absolutely trust him." Hee! And all the bits when she was taking care of Amy were just lovely. ♥ As was her clinging to Amy when she'd brought her through the teleport. YES.


• Ahaha, when the Doctor tells them to hold onto something River grabbed Amy straight away! Just like Jamie grabbing Two...


• "Can I trust you, River Song?"/"If you like. But where's the fun in that?"


• The black cleric didn't die first this time! ...yay? Also, why were all the clerics male? Lazy.


• It feels so wrong to see the Angels moving on camera! And I was not entirely convinced by the "pretend you can see and they'll believe you" idea, but that whole sequence was so well done and tense that I'll let it go.


• Also from the department of things I am letting go, using the ship's gravity to stick to the hull was a brilliant idea, but surely they would all have landed on their heads? Never mind.


• Father Octavian's death was excellent too, very moving.


• Forest! Onna spaceship! What a great visual.


• I am still not entirely sold on Eleven, alas, and I cannot put my finger on why. I don't dislike him, exactly, I just don't yet love him.


• I really like how the arc-plot is developing, that we're actually learning more about the crack rather than just spotting it every now and then.


• Amy counting down was sneaked in really well. V. creepy.


• NEXT WEEK'S LOOKS GREAT.

BANK HOLIDAY TOMORROW WOO. *stays up late*

Comments

[grlnamedlucifer]

>On the other hand, I really liked the fact that she was clearly not ashamed of wanting just sex, that was great. <

Me too. Even while I think the scene is a sign of something wrong/her freaking out, I do like that Amy specifically says "yeah, no, I'm not in love with you, I just want sex," which is a nice change. (And while I somehow doubt they're going the open relationship route, I do kinda want Rory's reaction to it to be more "*sigh* again, Amy?" than getting upset about it.)

>The black cleric didn't die first this time! ...yay? Also, why were all the clerics male? Lazy.<

That is the one negative thing I have from this two-partner, the make-up and fates of the clerics kinda sucked. I mean... I guess if death is better than never existing that means that the two black guys from the first episode actually got the better deal? And maybe all the clerics were guys to contrast again River? IDK.

>And I was not entirely convinced by the "pretend you can see and they'll believe you" idea, but that whole sequence was so well done and tense that I'll let it go.<

I did like though that River called it on being impossible. And that instead of just believing the Doctor knew best, worked on a back-up plan for when it went wrong.

>Amy counting down was sneaked in really well. V. creepy.<

*nodsnodsnods* The gradual horror of it was great, especially since it took time for even the Doctor to notice something hinky.

>but surely they would all have landed on their heads?<

I was under the impression that that's maybe why Amy was all confused in the beginning of the episode, that it was maybe a rough landing onto the spaceship? I could be entire wrong there, though

[usuallyhats]

(And while I somehow doubt they're going the open relationship route, I do kinda want Rory's reaction to it to be more "*sigh* again, Amy?" than getting upset about it.)
*nods* Either would be good, though you're right, the second is more likely!

And that instead of just believing the Doctor knew best, worked on a back-up plan for when it went wrong.
She knows him so well!

I was under the impression that that's maybe why Amy was all confused in the beginning of the episode, that it was maybe a rough landing onto the spaceship?
I think you're right - I was looking at screencaps earlier and they do seem to be picking themselves up. I must have been looking at my knitting during that bit...

[biichan.livejournal.com]

And who knows, maybe they have an open relationship (*crosses fingers*).

I can see it, what with her job of snogging people for profit and all.

Ahaha, when the Doctor tells them to hold onto something River grabbed Amy straight away! Just like Jamie grabbing Two...

Hee. The show is trying to convince me to ship River/Amy, I swear.

[usuallyhats]

Hee. The show is trying to convince me to ship River/Amy, I swear.

So much clinging! I love them.

I can see it, what with her job of snogging people for profit and all.

Yeah. I really hope they go down that route!

[vilakins.livejournal.com]

I noticed her countdown at nine, because her saying that puzzled me. THen I thought she was counting down the minutes they had left to keep the Doctor on track, till it became obvious she had no idea she was doing it.

A great ep except for the last scene which was so wrong in many levels. Do not like.

[morgaine-nicely.livejournal.com]

i dont like the sounds of the last scene, seems a bit odd....*shudder* but i'm still having issues with the whole series anyways lol. the counting down part was good though

[vilakins.livejournal.com]

And walking with her eyes closed. They know how to get into nightmare territory.

[usuallyhats]

I read a spoiler that said that Amy was going to be counting down to something and thought it was a rubbish spoiler, but then it turned out to be really creepy and interesting. Excellent!

[persiflage-1.livejournal.com]

I think there's chemistry between them if you want to see it. I'm still baffled by the folks insisting that Amy was acting OOC - for a start, she stares at the Doctor as he's undressing towards the end of The Eleventh Hour - and pointedly informs Rory that "Nope" she's not going to turn her back as Rory does. Then, too, she has a job as a kissogram - if those aren't hints that she's a sexual being, then what do people want, sledgehammers, a la Rusty??

And Amy's clearly been impulsive on more than one occasion (knocking the Doctor out with a cricket bat seems pretty impulsive to me).

I would also note that she never does anything more than pull his braces off his shoulders - surely if she were *really* serious about wanting to jump his bones, she'd have started unbuttoning his shirt as well? It's not like we haven't already seen shirtless!Eleven!

I really like how the arc-plot is developing, that we're actually learning more about the crack rather than just spotting it every now and then.

That's because Moffat's not lazy and believes in actually *properly* setting up a series-long arc!

[usuallyhats]

I didn't think it was OOC, exactly, it just seemed a little out of nowhere to me - apart from her checking him out in "The Eleventh Hour", I didn't really feel like she'd been acting like she was sexually interested in him. But like I said, that's such a subjective thing, just because I didn't see it doesn't mean it wasn't there! The impulsiveness is definitely in character, yes.

That's because Moffat's not lazy and believes in actually *properly* setting up a series-long arc!

Hee! I'm trying to reserve judgement until I see how it all plays out, but it's looking good so far!

[persiflage-1.livejournal.com]

Well there's the hint - if you choose to read it that way - in Victory that she fancies the Doctor (in her question to Bracewell "Ever fallen in love with the wrong person?" - then she flicks a glance sideways at the Doctor).

Oh I'm not even bothering to reserve judgement - all my reservations flew out of the window with The Eleventh Hour. (I rewatched it again last night, and it was 8still* a mad, fun romp and I so want him to meet Wee!Amelia again!)

[usuallyhats]

Ah, I was seeing it more as a "you know what I mean, right?" glance, but yeah, it could mean that too!

I would love to see wee!Amelia again too! *crosses fingers*

[persiflage-1.livejournal.com]

I shall be bitterly disappointed if we don't see wee!Amelia again.

[munditia.livejournal.com]

NEXT WEEK'S LOOKS GREAT

I CAN'T WAIT FOR VAMPIRES. FROM SPACE! AND TEAM TARDIS WITH RORY! SWORDFIGHTING WITH A BROOMSTICK!

[usuallyhats]

GALLIVANTING AROUND VENICE WITH RORY WEARING AMY'S FACE IN A HEART ON HIS CHEST! *anticipates happily*