I can see Dick getting the joke and being really into it, though possibly I am influenced more by fanon than canon there! Ha, well, he did grow up in the circus, so maybe he would think it was funny. :P I bet Alfred would be amused by the whole thing. And probably have to hide so that Damian wouldn't realize anyone thought he was funny and go looking for knives, haha.
At least if they'd done that, it would've been consistent retconning. That's a fair point, because it is a bit weird for Dick to be old enough to be running around as Nightwing by himself and Barbara to still be comfortable calling herself Batgirl. Although I think there was some length of time pre-reboot when that was true? Because I have Nightwing: Year One from the library (although I've not actually read it) and it appears to have Barbara in her Batgirl suit on the cover as well.
there's this really creepy bit where Alfred takes Bruce to see Tim's gymnastic performance and points him out as a potential new Robin That does sound really creepy, and kind of not like Alfred.
I guess I only knew broad-strokes versions of the Robins' origin stories anyway, but that's kind of weird that they felt like they needed to change them. Especially things like Bruce not taking Dick in--that's kind of a big thing. The 0 issue of Batman and Robin was, I think, supposed to serve a similar purpose to Batman and Son, and so Damian comes to Bruce in a very similar way (and with some panels that must be intentional artistic nods, even), but I don't know how much is the same after that. It's just that it has that at the very end of the issue, and most of it is about Damian's relationship with Talia, and how she sort of teases and withholds who his father is from him while she trains him. It's pretty interesting, and although it never really got into this, it did made me think about how Talia is probably a horrible person for the same reason that Damian is (and I say that with a great deal of affection for Damian :P )--she was probably raised very similarly, and subject to the same kind of pressure and conditioning. As opposed to just being a crazy evil genius, which she sometimes seems.
it's just jammed into a five year timespan Wait, three Robins in five years? And a Batgirl, too? And she gets shot, and then right after all this, Damian shows up on his doorstep? Why would they do all that so fast? Why wouldn't they give themselves a bigger pre-boot time window? O_O
Thinking about it, it may span SEVERAL continuities of its own! From what I've heard, it could exist outside of space and time and still not make sense. :P
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Date: 2 Nov 2012 20:17 (UTC)Ha, well, he did grow up in the circus, so maybe he would think it was funny. :P I bet Alfred would be amused by the whole thing. And probably have to hide so that Damian wouldn't realize anyone thought he was funny and go looking for knives, haha.
At least if they'd done that, it would've been consistent retconning.
That's a fair point, because it is a bit weird for Dick to be old enough to be running around as Nightwing by himself and Barbara to still be comfortable calling herself Batgirl. Although I think there was some length of time pre-reboot when that was true? Because I have Nightwing: Year One from the library (although I've not actually read it) and it appears to have Barbara in her Batgirl suit on the cover as well.
there's this really creepy bit where Alfred takes Bruce to see Tim's gymnastic performance and points him out as a potential new Robin
That does sound really creepy, and kind of not like Alfred.
I guess I only knew broad-strokes versions of the Robins' origin stories anyway, but that's kind of weird that they felt like they needed to change them. Especially things like Bruce not taking Dick in--that's kind of a big thing. The 0 issue of Batman and Robin was, I think, supposed to serve a similar purpose to Batman and Son, and so Damian comes to Bruce in a very similar way (and with some panels that must be intentional artistic nods, even), but I don't know how much is the same after that. It's just that it has that at the very end of the issue, and most of it is about Damian's relationship with Talia, and how she sort of teases and withholds who his father is from him while she trains him. It's pretty interesting, and although it never really got into this, it did made me think about how Talia is probably a horrible person for the same reason that Damian is (and I say that with a great deal of affection for Damian :P )--she was probably raised very similarly, and subject to the same kind of pressure and conditioning. As opposed to just being a crazy evil genius, which she sometimes seems.
it's just jammed into a five year timespan
Wait, three Robins in five years? And a Batgirl, too? And she gets shot, and then right after all this, Damian shows up on his doorstep? Why would they do all that so fast? Why wouldn't they give themselves a bigger pre-boot time window? O_O
Thinking about it, it may span SEVERAL continuities of its own!
From what I've heard, it could exist outside of space and time and still not make sense. :P